Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Buying a Sewing Machine on eBay...My Thoughts!

eBay can be a great source for your next machine. Here are my thoughts and a few things to consider before you buy on eBay.

September 2009

I sell refurbished machines on eBay with a good deal of success. I buy certain machines on eBay as well.

There are generally four types of sellers of used sewing machines on eBay.

1. Individuals - I consider individual sellers as folks that are selling machines that they own, inherited, were given etc. Typically these folks have used the machine. You are likely to get more accessories with the machine from this type of seller, such as specialty feet, extra bobbins, cases etc. Most individuals, unless they do their homework, don't know the market value of their machines. Many try to sell at a ridiculously high price, others sell at a price that is too low. Many don't factor in service and repair costs. Sewing machines have hundreds of parts that work together in an almost "magical" way. Some of the adjustments are to a couple of thousands of an inch.

ALWAYS ASSUME THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO SERVICE, REPAIR, OR REFURBISH THE MACHINE...UNLESS THEY CAN SUPPLY YOU WITH AN INVOICE THAT YOU CAN VERIFY.

Be careful of the seller who say's that they don't sew but when they plugged it in it ran...THAT IS A RED FLAG!! It "Ran" means that the motor turns...nothing more.

Some savy sellers bring their machines to a qualified professional and have it serviced before they sell it. These machines are worth more...IF they were really serviced. Ask for a copy of the service invoice. Call the servicing technician...most will be straight up with you...I always have been and so were the techs that used to work with me.

2. Estate/Storage Room Resellers - Stuff Resellers - These folks sell stuff, including sewing machines. They find them at estate sales, yard sales, thrift stores, storage room auctions, foreclosure auctions, etc.

ALWAYS ASSUME THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO SERVICE, REPAIR, OR REFURBISH THE MACHINE

3. Consignment Operations - These buisness simply supply a sales venue for the owner of the machine. Again,

ALWAYS ASSUME THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO SERVICE, REPAIR, OR REFURBISH THE MACHINE

4. Sewing Machine Techs, Sewing Machine Businesses etc. - These are professionals where you should get exactly what is described and you expect. Typically you will find the prices are higher. That is understandable as the machine as gone through some...even a minimal service process. These operations usually sell sewing machines, parts, and notions. They should have 99%+ Feedback or greater. Try to buy as locally as you can to reduce shipping cost. If you are a couple of hours from the seller consider asking for a "local pick-up". I provide that service regularly. Some sellers, like me, who charge a Flat Rate for shipping to 48 states may reduce the shipping charge if you are fairly close by. Example: I sold a machine to a customer in Washington DC (about 4 1/2 hours by car), it was a 35 lb. cast iron machine and I charged $36.50 Flat Rate. My actual shipping cost (excluding the box, the packing, tape etc..$8) was $15.50. So I refunded the customer $13.00 as a "Good Will" gesture...it paid off, withing two months he sent me another buyer... a friend of his! Sorry to say, like all businesses and people, there ARE bad apples. So watch your feedback.

eBay Advertising - Ridiculous Claims

The most ridiculous claims that I see every day on eBay is the term: "Industrial Strength"

My opinion is simple and logical...I think (let me know if you disagree)

There are basically two types of machines. INDUSTRIAL & DOMESTIC

INDUSTRIAL MACHINES, without exception use a remotely installed motor (usually under what is called a power stand. Typically these are 1/2 to 3/4 horsepower 120 - 240 VAC and continuous run rated (24 X 7).

DOMESTIC MACHINES are designed to be used in the home or small business, such as a tailor shop or a seamstress. Domestic machines, particularly the ones manufactured prior to 1970ish can be quite heavily built compared to today's domestic machines. The maximum motor size that you will likely see is 1.5 Amp, which is about 1/10 horsepower. The Singer 15-91, perhaps the finest domestic straight stitcher ever, usually has a .5 Amp motor (1/30 horsepower). I SEE THESE LISTED ALL THE TIME ON eBay as "INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH". NO WAY!
Even though they are made from cast iron, the casting thickness and drive components are a fraction of the size/strength of a true Industrial Machine. I've even seen new Chinese made plastic listed as "Industrial Strength"

INDUSTRIAL MACHINE ARE INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH
DOMESTIC MACHINE RAGE FROM PRETTY STRONG TO PATHETIC


DON'T GET CONNED BY THESE GUYS!

Sewing Leather
I love the pictures on eBay of plastic machines sewing through numerous layers of leather. Heck, I can by a $89.00 Walmart machine and sew through that super light and porous apparel leather. Try sewing 1/4-5/16" of tack leather...a different result...a broken machine!

Shipping Costs?

It is not cheap to ship a sewing machine. Some domestic machines can weigh up to 45 lbs. not including a case. To pack it properly and to minimize shipping damage I use a H.D. box which cost about $3.00 each. To render the machine immovable within the box I use about $4.00 worth of styrofoam board packing which I custom cut for every machine. The machine is put inside a plastic bag so that no styrofoam pieces get inside of it. HD tape is about $3.00 per roll. Insurance cost (no mark-up) is typically $3-$4 per machine.

Shipping Insurance

eBay, as of September 22, 2009, does not allow sellers to offer optional shipping insurance to buyers. It has to be included in S&H charges or not...it is entirely up to the seller. Read the listing carefully.


PayPal?

Is a pretty good program for the buyer. You are well protected. They have an industry best resolution process. The Seller has to be straight with you or risk penalties that are unusually harsh.

Getting the best deal!
I usually end my auctions on Sunday evenings...most other premium sellers like to as well. So if you are looking for a super low priced bargain special that you can have refurbished, then look during the week including Friday and Saturday nights.

Remember look at listings that have many pictures!!! A good picture is worth a thousand words!

TELL THE SELLER THAT A WELL PACKED, PROMPTLY SHIPPED MACHINE THAT IS DESCRIBED ACCURATELY = POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND A FIVE STAR RATING!

Hope this helps!

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